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Posted by: ButtonBoy on January 6, 2009 10:39AM CST Just keep producing new ballots and double counting others until the democrat takes the lead, then shut it down and declare victory. That's what's been going on in Minnesota. People up there must be insane. First they elect Jesse Ventura, then they let a nutjob like Franken steal the election.

Posted by: granny grits on January 6, 2009 10:54AM CST Coleman has been to court numerous times and was unable to support his allegations, yet now we learn of a conspiracy theory of a rigged election that must reach the State Supreme Court.? Any chance this is just more sour grapes?

Posted by: Huck Finn on January 6, 2009 1:45PM CST Shades of 2000. Minor spuds to be whining about don't you think? Surely Al can't screw the pooch nearly as badly as Bush did with his power grab.

Posted by: Bigfoot on January 6, 2009 3:05PM CST I guess when a democrat wins a close election, it's because of election fraud and 'far-left lunatics' but I'm sure when the republican wins it's the 'will of the people"! I wouldn't consider the Supreme Court of Minnesota to be a bunch of 'far-left lunatics"! Yes, granny grits, I agree it is more 'sour grapes'!

Posted by: EvenKiel on January 6, 2009 10:53PM CST I think it is ironic that when Coleman was ahead he called on Franken to concede because that's what he would do, but now that Coleman is behind in the count he isn't doing what he said he would do.

Posted by: racinenativemn on January 7, 2009 12:15AM CST yeah you're right Franken is ahead even if there are more votes than voters in 25 precincs Coleman should concede.

Posted by: granny grits on January 7, 2009 6:43AM CST I think this is one of the reasons Coleman is so desperate to remain in office. It provides him with a source of funds to convert to legal defense. "Donors to Minnesota Sen. Norm Coleman's re-election campaign may be surprised to learn that the St. Paul Republican is planning to use their contributions to pay blue-chip criminal defense lawyers to defend him against a reported FBI probe into his dealings with a wealthy businessman."

Posted by: Huck Finn on January 7, 2009 11:58AM CST Oh Granny! Not another DIRTY Republican. Shades of Newt! Give them enough time and they seem to polish even their dirtiest examples as heros again.

Posted by: Bob Vance on January 7, 2009 2:26PM CST Sandy O'Connor

Posted by: brewpackman on January 7, 2009 4:17PM CST You say the state is run by far left lunatics, do you refer to people like Rush Limbaugh as a far right lunatic?

Posted by: Stinky on January 8, 2009 3:04PM CST big- huck and granny, Please - show some some intellectual honesty. Obviously we all know what side of the aisle your on, but when 1000 votes show up after the election and ALL the votes are for Franken and when 25 districts have more votes than voters it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that at the very least there is an appearance of impropriety, and probably outright thievery. Can we all hear you say that vote fraud from either party is a crime against all voters and it should not be tolerated.

Posted by: Bigfoot on January 8, 2009 4:44PM CST Agreed. And so it would seem, if what you say is true, but not if what you say is a spin on the facts. And is your implication that republicans were trying to hide those votes from the election officials? And is it accurate that '25 districts have more votes than voters'? Is it true then that the Minn. Supreme Court is allowing voter fraud just so they can have Franken certified? Voter fraud (if there is any) from either party is a crome against all voters and should not be tolerated. And all legal ballots should be counted whether they are for Franken or Coleman!

Posted by: Stinky on January 9, 2009 11:44AM CST Thanks BF- and I will admit that I base my opinion on the basis that those are facts and not spin. However, I have not heard anyone dispute those claims. It seems that the claim that more votes than voters would be easy to verify.

Posted by: Bigfoot on January 9, 2009 3:58PM CST The fact that bothers me is that the votes that showed up were absentee ballots that were originally thrown out on election day. When the election board decided to count those ballots, they said that both sides had to agree on which ballots were to be included, which they both agreed on. When those votes showed Franken in the lead, Coleman's team then wanted further excluded votes tallied. Franken's team didn't want them in because they were thought to be from obviously Coleman'supporter areas. I do believe, even if it does result in Franken losing, that ALL absentee ballots should be voted, not just the ones originally agreed upon, I would not want to serve as senator if I did not let those ballots be counted also. So I still agree with you.

Posted by: Bigfoot on January 10, 2009 8:36AM CST BTW--I cannot find any references in the media as to 'more votes than voters' other than the claim by republicans that some absentee ballots for Franken were voted twice.