Talkin’ Baseball and Brewers
Wednesday August 8, 2007
Bonds didn't need steroids to be great
Posted by: ggiesen at 6:51PM CST on August 8, 2007

By Greg Giesen

Journal Times

I collect baseball cards. It’s been my hobby since 1975.

Back in 1994, I made two big purchases. I bought a 1957 Henry Aaron Topps baseball card and the 1986 Topps Traded set.

For those unfamiliar with card collecting, the traded series has all the players who were traded or the rookies who were called up during the season. The 1986 Topps Traded set had Barry Bonds’ first Topps card.

At the time, I had no idea the two players would ever be linked the way they are now. Henry Aaron has always been a favorite of mine and Bonds — I thought — was going to be one of the game’s greats.

When Bonds broke Aaron’s career home run record Tuesday night in San Francisco, I started thinking about Bonds’ place among baseball’s legends. In the end, I knew just where Bonds belonged; I just wasn’t sure why he put himself there.

There’s little doubt that Bonds — before he got involved with trainer Greg Anderson and BALCO — was among the game’s elite players. From 1990 to 1993, Bonds won three National League MVP Awards and could have won four. Atlanta’s Terry Pendelton won in 1991, beating Bonds by 15 points. Between Ken Griffey Jr. and Bonds, baseball had the 1990s version of Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays. There was little doubt that Bonds would find a place in Cooperstown five years after he retired.

But Bonds’ place among the greats wasn’t enough and that’s what I don’t understand. I realize that there is a fierce competitive spirit and ego among professional players and there has to be, but when is enough, enough?

According to the book "Game of Shadows," Bonds was so jealous of the attention and affection given to sluggers Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa during their pursuit of the single-season home run record in 1998 that he decided to do whatever it took to turn himself into a power hitter to rival Sosa and McGwire. If steroids could turn two very good but not great players into superstars, just imagine what it could do for Bonds. Not only would Bonds become the greatest, but he would receive the same adoration that Slammin’ Sammy and Big Mac received that season. That logic, though, doesn’t make sense. Bonds didn’t need steroids to be the best of his generation and arguably among the game’s greatest and his abrasive attitude kept him from being a fan favorite everywhere but San Francisco.

Sadly, Bonds still decided to go down the road of chemical cheats and will forever wear the stain left by the syringe. Bonds claims he didn’t know he was taking steroids, saying he thought it was flaxseed oil. One thing is clear, a sin of omission is still a sin. And Bonds’ arrogance in his culpability will forever make it difficult — if not impossible — for people to forgive his misdeeds.

So where does Bonds belong? Instead of joining Aaron, Babe Ruth, Frank Robinson, his godfather Willie Mays or Mantle in the Parthenon of baseball legends, Bonds belongs in baseball’s village of the dammed. He belongs with those players who, despite their enormous talents, left the world with a very bitter taste because of their self-serving actions. Bonds belongs right up there with "The Hit King" Pete Rose, the racist Ty Cobb, the gamblers from the 1919 Chicago White Sox, felon Denny McClain and alleged steroid abusers Sosa and McGwire.

And while I plan on keeping my Bonds baseball card, it will never hold the allure it did back in 1994.


Friday August 3, 2007
Brewers veterans need to lead young stars
Posted by: Dustin at 11:39AM CST on August 3, 2007

By Greg Giesen
Journal Times

Are you frustrated with Milwaukee Brewers and their inability to hold an eight-game lead over the Chicago Cubs?

You’re not the only one, just ask Brewers’ manager Ned Yost, catcher Johnny Estrada and infielder Tony Graffanino.

While Thursday’s theatrics were much ado about nothing -- a Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel story said Estrada and Graffanino were standing up for a player and all parties involved have moved on with no hard feelings -- frustration is an understandable feeling. But before your frustrations boils over, let me give you a little history lesson.

Back in 2001, there was another Midwest baseball team whose young talent players -- who played together since rookie ball -- finally started to reach their potential. The team of youngsters started the season fast, going 18-6. The team went 16-11 in May and 14-14 in June. After beating the Milwaukee Brewers 13-5 July 12, this team was 56-32 (the second best record in the league) with a five-game lead over a rival filled with older, pennant race test players and a 14-game lead over the defending division champions.

From that point, this team collapsed, going 29-44 after July 12. They finished second in the division, six games back of the experienced, pennant-race tested team.
That team was the Minnesota Twins. The same franchise the Brewers have patterned themselves after since general manager Doug Melvin took over in 2002. In 2001, the Twins finished second behind the Cleveland Indians and just two games ahead of the defending American League Central champion Chicago White Sox. The players’ average age was 26.2.

Minnesota, which featured young outfielders named Torii Hunter and Jacque Jones, a designated hitter named David Ortiz, a catcher named A.J. Pierzynski, an ace pitcher named Brad Radke, a young long reliever named Johan Santana and an overworked bullpen that included LaTroy Hawkins and Eddie Guardado, learned from that season and went on to win four division titles in the next five season.

So what’s the moral of this history lesson? Before going over board about how bad the Brewers are and the need to fire Melvin and manager Ned Yost, remember that this is a very young team. The player's average age is 27.9 and that's with Damian Miller (37) and Craig Counsell (36). When Rickie Weeks is at second base, the entire starting infield is under the age of 25 and six of the eight position players are under the age of 30. Considering that most players hit their prime around age 27, this team has a strong foundation to contend to division titles well into the next decade.

As for this year, there are going to be growing pains for everyone and the team with more experienced players will have an advantage. That doesn’t mean the Cubs will run away with the NL Central (goodness know you can‘t expect their pitching staff to keep pitching like it has), but having players like Derrek Lee, Alfonso Soriano, Cliff Floyd, Jason Kendall, Aramis Ramirez, Carlos Zambrano and Jones -- who either have World Series rings or playoff experience -- helps.

The Brewers, on the other hand, need their experienced veterans -- Counsell, Graffanino, Estrada and Jeff Suppan -- to help the younger players grow up fast.

SOME PEOPLE NEED A CLUE: It seems like I can’t read or listen to anything about sports without hearing the four-letter F-word about Melvin and Yost.

No, not the typical dirty F-word (though I’m sure many people are say or thinking that too). No, I’m referring to the word fire.

Let’s start with Melvin. There are many people who are frustrated with the fact that the Brewers’ GM didn’t make a big deadline deal to land a big stick, a front-line starting pitcher or a stud reliever. Instead of looking at this season, let’s look at the big picture: Since Melvin came to Milwaukee, he has acquired substantial numbers of talented players when dealing potential free agents, gave the Brewers’ roster some depth and oversaw a renaissance in the Brewers’ farm system with Jack Zduriencik. And, a majority of the players Melvin has acquired have contributed to the franchise in some form.

Let’s take this a step further, who did you want the Brewers to get? Outfielders Adam Dunn or Ken Griffey Jr.? Outfielder Jermaine Dye? What big pitching stud was available? And, were you willing to give up Yovani Gallardo, Ryan Braun or Manny Parra for them? Are you willing to give up Matt Wise -- who before pitching in Cincinnati was one of the team’s top relievers? Melvin added to the Brewers’ middle relief corps and did so without mortgaging the future.

And finally, who would you rather have as the team’s GM? How about Dean Taylor --remember signing Jeffrey Hammonds and Eric Young? If you don’t like Taylor, maybe you’d rather have Sal Bando? When you look at it in that light, Melvin seems like a wonderful option.
As for Yost, he’s constantly in a lose-lose situation. If you put Gallardo in the bullpen, then you’re ruining the rotation. If Gallardo’s in the rotation and damages his arm, then you’ve ruined the team’s future ace. If Prince Fielder sits for a day or two, then Yost isn’t giving his team the best chance to win. If Fielder wears down in September from starting too many games, Yost didn’t do enough to save his players. If Yost rotates his bench players, he’s hurting the team. If Yost doesn’t keep his bench players fresh, he’s hurting the team. No matter what people are gong to complain and every major league manager knows that.

That said, name for me the last manager to have the Brewers in first place on or after Aug. 1? How about the last manager to have the Brewers with a winning record on or after Aug. 1? The answer to the first is Harvey Kuenn 25 years ago. The second is Ned Yost in 2005 and before that it was Phil Garner in 1992. What amazes me is that this team of mostly youngsters could win 85 games or more and people still want Yost fired.

Yost took over in 2003 after the Brewers went 62-101 in 2002. In his fifth season, the Brewers are contending for a NL Central division title. Since 1992, Garner, Davey Lopes and Jerry Royster all failed to even come close to that standard. Yes, the Brewers have more talent, but it’s young talent and should improve with age -- as will Yost. And like Melvin, Yost looks like Hall of Fame manager Casey Stengel compared to his predecessors.


Monday July 2, 2007
Four Milwaukee Brewers earn MLB all-star nod
Posted by: Scott Anderson at 10:50AM CST on July 2, 2007
By ANDREW SELIGMAN
Associated Press

CHICAGO — The last time the Milwaukee Brewers had this many All-Stars, “Harvey’s Wallbangers” were terrorizing the American League. Now, they’re doing a number on the National League — with a Prince leading the way.

First baseman Prince Fielder, shortstop J.J. Hardy, closer Francisco Cordero and pitcher Ben Sheets were selected for the All-Star team on Sunday. That gave Milwaukee four representatives for the first time since 1983, when shortstop Robin Yount, catcher Ted Simmons, outfielder Ben Oglivie and first baseman Cecil Cooper made it.

“We’re starting to be recognized nationally and I think we should be,” said Hardy, batting .284. “We have a really good team and people are starting to notice.”

At 47-34, the NL Central leaders are tough to ignore. And they’re on pace to reach the playoffs for the first time since 1982, when St. Louis beat them in the World Series.


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Marquis, Cubs defeat Brewers
Posted by: Scott Anderson at 10:49AM CST on July 2, 2007
By ANDREW SELIGMAN
Associated Press

CHICAGO — There were welts below Jason Marquis’ right eye and on his left arm. Still, he and the Chicago Cubs felt great Sunday.

Marquis allowed four hits in seven innings to win for the first time in almost two months, and Chicago beat the Milwaukee Brewers 5-1.

The win was the eighth in nine games for the Cubs, who took two of three from the NL Central leaders and trail them by 6½ games.

“I think we’re playing real good, solid baseball,” said Marquis, who got hit by the barrel of a broken bat in the first inning. “We’re minimizing mistakes. Obviously, we expect to win.”


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Brewers bounce back in big way
Posted by: Scott Anderson at 10:47AM CST on July 2, 2007
By RICK GANO
Associated Press

CHICAGO — The Brewers showed why they’re in first and have been for most of the season.

Milwaukee bounced back quickly from a tough loss the day before, jumping on the Chicago Cubs early and not letting up Saturday in a 13-4 victory.
Ben Sheets won his 10th game, and Ryan Braun hit a two-run homer and went 4-for-5 with four RBIs.

In their highest scoring game this season, the NL Central leaders got four runs in the first, three in the second and two more in the third. They finished with 15 hits.

“Our guys came in here and yeah they were upset, but they understood,” manager Ned Yost said. “They weren’t coming back to make a statement. They were coming back to play their game.”


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Cubs Ramirez blasts Brewers bullpen
Posted by: Scott Anderson at 10:46AM CST on July 2, 2007
By RICK GANO
Associated Press

CHICAGO — Aramis Ramirez went from disgusted to delighted as the Chicago Cubs mounted an improbable comeback off Milwaukee closer Francisco Cordero to win their seventh straight game.

Ramirez hit a two-out, two-run homer in the bottom of the ninth as the Cubs rallied for three in the final inning and a 6-5 win Friday over the first-place Brewers.

In the seventh with two runners on, Ramirez struck out against Matt Wise to end the inning and slammed his bat down at the plate.

“I should put the ball in play at least,” Ramirez said. “I knew I was going to have another chance and I came through.”

The NL Central-leading Brewers took a 5-0 lead in the first inning. They still led 5-3 going into the ninth before Alfonso Soriano and Mike Fontenot singled with one out off Cordero (0-2), the major league saves leader with 27.

After Derrek Lee hit a sacrifice fly, Ramirez lined the next pitch into the left-center field bleachers for his 15th homer, setting off a wild celebration at Wrigley Field.


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Brewers have something special in Gallardo
Posted by: Scott Anderson at 10:46AM CST on July 2, 2007
By Greg Giesen
Journal Times

It wasn’t your typical meeting at the mound last week when the Milwaukee Brewers defeated the San Francisco Giants 5-4 in the opening game of their three-game series.

Of course it wasn’t your typical game either. Rookie right-hander Yovanni Gallardo was making his debut against Barry Bonds and the Giants.

After giving up three runs on four hits over 6 1/3 innings, Gallardo was removed from the game by Brewers manager Ned Yost. While Yost and the entire Brewers infield watched Gallardo walk off the field to a standing ovation, a unique conversation occurred on the mound.

“Prince (Fielder) said, ‘Man, he’s cool,’” Yost said during his postgame press conference June 18. “‘He’s nice and calm and cool.’ I said, ‘Yep, he’s just like you guys. He’s a stud.’ ”


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